Hi BruceDrew: I believe the manifold bolts are 1-1/2"
Look along the top front edge of the cook box. That is where warpage normally happens. It should be straight acrosss. Also, on the sides, just above the frame level it bow out a bit sometimes.
So if its a case of the cooking grates not sitting flush on the top front edge, is that considered warpage?Good question! Warping usually shows up as the front lip bowing out or the ledges where the grates sit becoming uneven, causing the grates to fall in. Check along the top front edge it should be straight and also the sides, just above the frame, for any bowing. For the manifold bolts, 1-1/4" or 1-1/2" might work, depending on your grill. If you spot warping, it might be time to consider repairs or a replacement.
That could just as easily be from the grates themselves being warped, bent, or a broken weld.So if its a case of the cooking grates not sitting flush on the top front edge, is that considered warpage?
Show a picture of the issue Drew.So if its a case of the cooking grates not sitting flush on the top front edge, is that considered warpage?
Thank you for confirming and posting the link for the correct size bolt.Show a picture of the issue Drew.
Also, regarding your bolt question, The first two of the three choices look to be only 1/2" long bolts. You need 1 1/4" or longer. I think factory is 1-1/4" but 1-1/2" would work fine as well. 1/4"-20 x 2" bolts are needed for the Cookbox on the left side.
These are what I have used in the past: https://boltdepot.com/Product-Details?product=132
That's the size bolt that is used for the frame, way too short for the manifold. There should be no issue. Use the correct size bolts.Upon inspection of the bolts for the manifold looks like I used 1/4"-20 x 1/2".
I’ll post a picture of the cookbox issue shortly.
RC Planer gratesShow a picture of the issue Drew.
When the Weber was refreshed back in 2019 the manifold was replaced. I tossed all the bolts during disassembly and assumed the manifold bolts were the same as the frame bolts. All the bolts were replaced with 316 stainless steel.Yah, those shorter 1/2" bolts are way too short for manifold bolts. They are frame bolts as Steve indicated. They are likely not stainless steel either.
If you look @ img_4095 the grates are pushed all the way against the front edge of the cook box. The spacing of the grates to the back edge of the cook box looks even.It's normal for there to be some play in the grates. If you push a grate all the way to the back of the grill and the distance between the grate and the front lip of the cook box is uneven it is probably bowed out. The gap will widen from the side of the grill to the middle.
In that picture, yes it looks even. In the last picture with only one grate installed it does look bowed out though. Optical illusion perhaps. You may also benefit from removing the built up grease from the ledges where the grates sit, all that gunk could be making it harder to tell. If you do decide that it's bowed out though, it can be fixed and I'll be happy to tell you how to do it.If you look @ img_4095 the grates are pushed all the way against the front edge of the cook box. The spacing of the grates to the back edge of the cook box looks even.
Just had a closer look at the grates.In that picture, yes it looks even. In the last picture with only one grate installed it does look bowed out though. Optical illusion perhaps. You may also benefit from removing the built up grease from the ledges where the grates sit, all that gunk could be making it harder to tell. If you do decide that it's bowed out though, it can be fixed and I'll be happy to tell you how to do it.
If the box was warped it would be the center giving the issueJust had a closer look at the grates.
With the grates pushed all the way towards the front edge of the cook box, the spacing at the back edge (center) appears wider than the left and right sides.
Is this issue known as bowing and how would you fix it?
It sounds like you do have at least some bowing, even if the grates aren't literally falling in to the cook box yet. The way I have fixed it before is with a couple of 1x4 boards placed under the lip on the front and back of the cookbox that run the length of the bowing, so not all the way to the edges of the cook box. You don't want to apply pressure there. Use one or two pipe clamps to secure the boards in the right spots and start cranking them down to bend the cook box back into shape. I have ended up bending it beyond even because it will want to spring back to it's original bowed out state once you release the clamps. I have only done this on a cook box that was no longer useable at that point and had nothing to lose if it didn't work or shattered the cook box. This was two years ago and I'm still using the grill every day so I know the process works.Just had a closer look at the grates.
With the grates pushed all the way towards the front edge of the cook box, the spacing at the back edge (center) appears wider than the left and right sides.
Is this issue known as bowing and how would you fix it?
Sounds like I have a new plan of action.It sounds like you do have at least some bowing, even if the grates aren't literally falling in to the cook box yet. The way I have fixed it before is with a couple of 1x4 boards placed under the lip on the front and back of the cookbox that run the length of the bowing, so not all the way to the edges of the cook box. You don't want to apply pressure there. Use one or two pipe clamps to secure the boards in the right spots and start cranking them down to bend the cook box back into shape. I have ended up bending it beyond even because it will want to spring back to it's original bowed out state once you release the clamps. I have only done this on a cook box that was no longer useable at that point and had nothing to lose if it didn't work or shattered the cook box. This was two years ago and I'm still using the grill every day so I know the process works.