Bloom is Coming Off the Rose

[LMichaels]

Gonna walk a very fine line as I don't want to run afoul of anyone. But, I'm calling BS on all these companies. Whether Fellow, or any others. Tariffs are not even in effect and even if they do come to effect we still do not know what will be worked out and on what type of goods and so on. Just a way of padding their already too fat bottom lines preserving those bonuses for the bosses

 

[Ed P]

There are tariffs that are in effect right now with more on the horizon, and businesses are very unsure about what the future holds. Raising prices tends to slow sales, which gives companies more time to move existing inventory while waiting to see what the future looks like. Competition is what brings prices down, so maybe something similar at a lower price can be found, but if not, maybe don't buy anything. That's really all we can do to protest high prices.

 

[LMichaels]

There are tariffs that are in effect right now with more on the horizon, and businesses are very unsure about what the future holds. Raising prices tends to slow sales, which gives companies more time to move existing inventory while waiting to see what the future looks like. Competition is what brings prices down, so maybe you can find something similar at a lower price, but if not, maybe you can do without. That's really all we can do to protest high prices...

Yeah, been doing without right now since sending back the OXO. That thing was great because it nestled on the counter in such a way I could do all the operations on it without needing to constantly move it. Dragging a large heavy coffee maker out from under, filling, and getting it back outta the way is a PIA.
But this whole pricing thing is simply taking advantage of customers (or potential ones). Hell look at coffee pricing. Oh they had a big "crop scare" now coffee futures are in the dumpster. You think the pricing has come down to match? Heck no. You go to Costco and they're still jacked up close to 50%
I did hear back from Consumer Product Safety Commission and they've forwarded my safety complaint on to OXO

 

[Wilmer Cogburn]

Our suppliers of lumber for the new houses I build say the US mills just raise their costs to match the higher imported costs of Canadian lumber because they can.

 

[Ed P]

Capitalism at its finest. Again, the only thing we can do to protest is to stop buying.

 

[timothy]

Our suppliers of lumber for the new houses I build say the US mills just raise their costs to match the higher imported costs of Canadian lumber because they can.

I don't know if you remember, but back in the 90's Canadian lumber was the thing because it could span longer.
We burnt thru all our old growth lumber and our new HF # 1 or 2 would only span like 15" 4" for 2x10 joists.
The old growth canadian lumber could add a few inches to that span and builders liked it cause it was cheaper compared to our HF ( Hem Fir )

 

[LMichaels]

Well I've been holding off on a decision waiting for Prime Days. What a waste of my time. Every time Amazon runs Prime Days and I'm possibly needing/wanting a particular item and it's always a waste of my time waiting. No deals to be had on either machine I'm considering I've never had Prime Days be of any use to me

 

[Keith P]

Gonna walk a very fine line as I don't want to run afoul of anyone. But, I'm calling BS on all these companies. Whether Fellow, or any others. Tariffs are not even in effect and even if they do come to effect we still do not know what will be worked out and on what type of goods and so on. Just a way of padding their already too fat bottom lines preserving those bonuses for the bosses

Tariffs are in effect, and the expectation is that the rates will further increase. But even if there were 0 tariffs, the value of the dollar is down 10% this year, so even if prices on components imported into the US have not been changed by the supplier they are still 10% more expensive to import. And given the substantial portion of US Treasuries held by foreign governments the dollar is likely at further risk.

 

[LMichaels]

Well, I ordered the Fellow Aiden last night as I think it may just fit slightly better and I really only need a 10 cup machine with a 12 cup a huge over kill for me. Fellow has a 30 day no question asked return policy so if I end up not liking it I'll get the Breville Luxe. Since it's the evolutionary "update" to the Precision Brew I am currently using. I'll see how things go with it. I know I likely will not even scratch the surface of it's programming. We shall see.
As for the validity or not of what you are saying about the $$$ and such. I've not dived into it far enough yet to make an argument in agreement or disagreement. And I don't want the thread to devolve off subject. But, I do appreciate the input and viewpoint

 

[Keith P]

Well, I ordered the Fellow Aiden last night as I think it may just fit slightly better and I really only need a 10 cup machine with a 12 cup a huge over kill for me. Fellow has a 30 day no question asked return policy so if I end up not liking it I'll get the Breville Luxe. Since it's the evolutionary "update" to the Precision Brew I am currently using. I'll see how things go with it. I know I likely will not even scratch the surface of it's programming. We shall see.
As for the validity or not of what you are saying about the $$$ and such. I've not dived into it far enough yet to make an argument in agreement or disagreement. And I don't want the thread to devolve off subject. But, I do appreciate the inpu

Will be anxious to hear your thoughts. Fellow makes some good stuff

 

[LMichaels]

Good or bad I don't pull punches. I did get a call yesterday from OXO's legal dept as IMO the issues I had with all 3 of those brewers was too serious to simply "let go". When a brewer will not shut down it's heating element and sit there continually "cooking" that is not s simple "inconvenience" as it would be in a "false brew" situation. That is potentially dangerous. So I did file a report with CPSC. We'll see what comes of all this as well