Justin-NC
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Ok Folks - First real post here. My current grill is a 2017 Genesis II E-310 with the open frame. I'm in the market for a new grill that has a closed-in frame with doors to deter animals and is at least 4 burners (although 6 would be nice) to fit a larger size skillet insert. I like the idea of having side burners and searing functionality as well.
The Genesis II SP-435 would probably be my first choice (primarily due to cook box design) if I could get lucky and find one used for around $600 or less but I'm thinking the chances of this are slim. I have also been looking hard at used Summits from around 2008-2012. I like the idea of more BTU's with the summit and have generally heard good things about quality cooking experiences and even heating. I don't see myself doing rotisserie much. Thanks to this great forum, I'm also well read on the lack of Summit cook box spare parts and the design flaw that leads to rust starting at the holes near the burner penetrations and ignitors.
I understand these Summit cook boxes all have a limited life driven by how fast the rust progresses from initial enamel separation around the holes, and that generally, there's no way to prevent the failure unless completely replacing that section with new aftermarket fabbed material or similar. Without fail, every used Summit I've looked at has rust at least in the corners of the square holes. I have come across an S-670 just now that has been rebuilt and actually has a new cook box that was installed ~18 months ago. Cook box is still in great condition with no enamel failure around the square holes except for one where the owner had reinstalled rusty ignitors and it appears to have been in contact with the cook box which cause premature failure of the enamel in that small area.
The seller has also previously converted it from LP to NG and is now offering to reconvert back to LP to sell to me. Seller has a brand new LP manifold and LP orifices for side and rotisserie burners he is prepared to install if I'm interested. Can anyone confirm these parts would be a proper conversion or are any additional parts/step needed?
Otherwise, the grill seems to be in excellent shape and has generally been completely rebuilt with new parts. What should I offer? List price is currently $1,200 but I don't think he was aware of the cook box issue. See pics below and attached for reference. Thanks in advance for any advice!

The Genesis II SP-435 would probably be my first choice (primarily due to cook box design) if I could get lucky and find one used for around $600 or less but I'm thinking the chances of this are slim. I have also been looking hard at used Summits from around 2008-2012. I like the idea of more BTU's with the summit and have generally heard good things about quality cooking experiences and even heating. I don't see myself doing rotisserie much. Thanks to this great forum, I'm also well read on the lack of Summit cook box spare parts and the design flaw that leads to rust starting at the holes near the burner penetrations and ignitors.
I understand these Summit cook boxes all have a limited life driven by how fast the rust progresses from initial enamel separation around the holes, and that generally, there's no way to prevent the failure unless completely replacing that section with new aftermarket fabbed material or similar. Without fail, every used Summit I've looked at has rust at least in the corners of the square holes. I have come across an S-670 just now that has been rebuilt and actually has a new cook box that was installed ~18 months ago. Cook box is still in great condition with no enamel failure around the square holes except for one where the owner had reinstalled rusty ignitors and it appears to have been in contact with the cook box which cause premature failure of the enamel in that small area.
The seller has also previously converted it from LP to NG and is now offering to reconvert back to LP to sell to me. Seller has a brand new LP manifold and LP orifices for side and rotisserie burners he is prepared to install if I'm interested. Can anyone confirm these parts would be a proper conversion or are any additional parts/step needed?
Otherwise, the grill seems to be in excellent shape and has generally been completely rebuilt with new parts. What should I offer? List price is currently $1,200 but I don't think he was aware of the cook box issue. See pics below and attached for reference. Thanks in advance for any advice!

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