with no case & in open air, slight wind, upwind from smoker, the ambient thermistor read ~6* higher than the 62* outside temp after getting everything stabilized. Inside my lego case, it gets up to about 8* higher while inside the house. I either adjust the offset & know that it won't be right at first, or ignore it completely (it's useful for when you first get started with a new HM & calibrating probes). Mouser was out of stock when I last ordered parts, so #2 won't have it at all.