smoke drying and dehydrating


 

Dan H.

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was wandering if someone fairly experienced with this could explain a few questions I have. I've smoke dried and dehydrated a few things but to start I've not really been able to get that perfect "flexible" dried chili.
why are they so loose in the store and how is it done that way? while were at it, is it perfectly safe that way? those of you who have messed around w/ this may understand but theres a finer line then one would think between "flexible" and fairly dry and stiff. Also I've read on this site through a search to maybe toast the store bought before grinding, and wondering why that is.
What ussually happens w/ me is a end up w/ a wonderful smelling tasting result but never "flexible" theres a soft stage to a point where near the stems is still mushy rather then flexible which looks to be not so good eats to me, but seems the next stage is very dry & stiff. there always good and very usable but I had to ask. If possible an overall descriptive descussion of your experience would be helpfull and interesting to me. maybe theres a link to something I missed.
by the way (if its helpful at all) my method is ussually something like this: smoke for 4-5 hours around 120-130 degrees then finish in a dehydrator at the same temp. I've just read that is a good temp. I've always been tempted to dry at a lower temp but is there some sort of issue w/ that? I wouldn't think so but Im not sure.
I have further questions about fruit peels, garlic, onion etc. but I'de like to see what comes up first, and see if someone enjoys these things as much as me. You can only look into things so much before I decided I wanted to hear from more experienced people who may have done these things a lot. I've found myself disagreeing (sp?) w/ a few things i've found here and there. And don't get me wrong this has been pretty enjoyable and fun and my results have been great but just wanted to go over some details and ideas. thanks a lot.
 
I try to keep the temp down while smoking... (That after making several batches of Chipotle charcoal) Often, I find myself building a very small fire (4-5 pc charcoal) with a couple chunks of wood and then repeating a few times. Sometimes I'm able to watch the fire and keep it going but too frequently life gets in the way. I don't worry about it. I've had Chipotles and Anchos in the smoker for days with the occasional fire. When I feel there is sufficient smoke I move them to the oven (or even on the racks with a fan) until done. With the oven, more often then not, I miss and some are more "done" then others.
The really "crisp ones", they go into the grinder immediately (Great on popcorn!). Ones that are just a bit too far: into a FoodSaver container with a shot of vinegar or white wine and vacuumed for 24-48 hours. Open it up and all are pliable but still dried. Leave them out for a day or so to be sure that they are not excessively hydrated and safe for storage. Sometime I vac pack and some into a storage container in the fridge. I think the cold is a good for extended flavor.
Your questions:
"toast the store bought before grinding, and wondering why that is."
Two things. First quite often the chili is too pliable to even be ground and second, a light toasting will bring the flavors (oil) of the pepper out.
"the stems is still mushy" I don't do "whole" anymore. Split then in half. I leave the seeds and membrane. Dry much more evenly.
 
I've smoked chipotles in my Big Chief fish smoker and it has worked out very well as the temps don't go very high and get a nice long drying period.
 
good ideas thanks. Just finished some more this morning. I may try the shot of wine in a bag w/ some.
 
have to ask one more thing as of yesterday. I hoped there was an easier way to get a more course grind on the following things:
Most fruit peels (orange, lemon.. etc.), garlic, onion, shallot, even peppercorns.
Is there such thing as different size sifts I could purchase online somewhere (or anywhere)? But most of what I've always noticed is Its difficult for me (and what I have) to grind just course blends WITHOUT having some powder also. Example would be yesterday and in the past about two times, maybe three:
I run slices of dehydrated garlic through a small spice grinder pulsed and shaken maybe 6-7 seconds then pour into a random sifting tool I have thats a probably a bit less then 1/8" (inch). I keep the course but then there is always a little less of the same amount thats powdered or at least twice as fine. At that point I just repeat the process till all is done. Thats great but I'de rather have the course in most cases, esp. since it could be taken down finer, at a later time, just by running it through again.
I have right now a nice morter and pedistal kit thing and a grinder and a few random sifters (haha) and a hammer in my construction tool belt, (
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joke). The M&Pedistal works fine I suppose but is slow and still slightly inconsistant. Theres got to be an easier way. just wandering what I could buy to help me and/or here some pointers from you guys. Same story goes for several ingredients (long story short). Or it could be as simple as: thats just part of it. The only thing I find easy is working w/ dried chilis for some reason, probably there nature of being thin anyway etc. anyway, thanks again.
 

 

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