Another question I have is what are the ways to package pre trimmed meat to a competition. I know that some use food saver vacums, but what if you dont have one. Can you just put the meat in a large Glad bag with the original packaging?? What are some do's and don'ts regarding this.?? Also how much meat do you guys place into coolers?? Or maybe how many coolers and how much ice do you bring to a comp???