first butt on my new WSM and a few questions


 

Gordon LW

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first of y'all great site! it's been so much help! I'm not new to smoking just to the WSM. had a offset chargriller since 2007 and have perfected my ribs on it but had hard times with long cooks (butts etc). anyway did my first butt on the WSM the other night as a trial run for my fourth of july party. just did one 5 pound butt. it took pretty much exactly 10 hours. I did the minion method and used apple chips (no chunks available). so much easier than my offset! first of all here are the pics!

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as I said I did the minion method. full of kingsford with about 25 lit coals. started about 11:15-11:30 or so. had it stabilize to temp pretty quick (had the butt, out of the fridge for a half hour or so). vents were about 15% open (more on that later). went to bed about 2am with a steady temp between 225 and 240 or so. woke up about 6am to my redi-check ET-73 going off. temp was below 210. went out, kicked the legs, stirred the coals, opened bottoms vents just a tad and it quickly went up. then it spiked over 260! checked the water and it was pretty low (I stared with a gallon). I had a bit of a time getting it back down to comfortable temp but did and was back in bed by 7am or so. butt hit 195 about 10am. I took it off, foiled it and put it in a cooler. I left my thermometer in and by about noon it was down to about 150. I pulled the pork and we had lunch!

so now for my questions.

I know weather and other variables make a difference. it wasn't too hot or cold, only a slight breeze (5mph or less) and a slight drizzle in the morning. generally speaking does it seem right to drop temp below 210 after only 6 hours or so? what I've been reading is to expect to stir and kick legs after about 10 hours or so.

also do folks just use a gallon of water at a time as they recommend or more?

as for the vents I'm having trouble deciding what I think 15% is, 25% etc. 50% is pretty easy but I keep second guessing everything else! any pics posted of the %'s?

next I'm wondering about the holding in the cooler thing (never did that with my offset). like I said after foiling and putting in a cooler (on a towel but not wrapped)in about 2 hours it was at 150. I'd like to hold longer if possible on the fourth. would wrapping the foiled butt in a towel help that much? I'm dong two 8 pounders so looking at at least 16 hours and then I need to cook some other stuff. so I need some wiggle room in the afternoon.

now a few questions about cooking other things
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after the butts come off I'm gonna do some ABT's and a couple fatties. I like to do my ABT's a little higher temp (275-300) so the bacon crisp up a bit better. so after a 16 hour cook if I just open the vents up should that keep me good for another couple hours at a higher temp? should I empty the h2o pan? if adding fuel how much in the weber chimney (or just add unlit to what is left from overnight)?

sorry for such a long post
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I started off only getting 6-8 hours (WSM 22)before the need to stir the coals.....that's gone up significantly as I use the cooker more. It gets seasoned and performs better as time goes on....longer smoking times on less fuel, definitely.

Lately, I've been leaving all vents wide open until the cooker gets to 225 (minion method with K Blue), then I shut the bottom vents almost completely and it holds at less than 250 for a lonnnnnnnng time.

I always wrap PP heavily in a towel as well as foil with good results. I also prep the cooler by putting calding hot water in the cooler just before I use it, bringing the overall temp of the cooler way up before putting the meat in it. Not sure if it helps a lot, but it made sense to me and I still do it.

If you're at the end of a 16 hour cook and you want high heat, I would not chance just opening the vents; I would add another 1/2 to full chimney with the vents wide open to get those temps up quick......nothing worse than the WSM petering out before everything is done.

Good luck and thanks for sharing; the PP looks great!
 
thanks for the reply. makes since about the seasoning. should have mentioned I've done three cooks before the butt. two high heat (beginner chicken recipe) and a few racks of ribs (225-250). so definitely not seasoned good yet but not brand new either
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What size WSM are you using? With my 22.5 WSM when doing pork butts I open a new 20lb bag of Kingsford Blue, I don't have a taste problem with it, turn my Weber chimney upside down and fill that section to the top, put the rest in the bottom of my WSM and put the lit on top. Vents full open and get the inside temp up to 240-250F. before adding a couple of eight to ten pound shoulders. When the coals on top, when the temp stabilizez I close all bottom vents except one, top stays open, that is only 30% open, yours might be different.. My WSM will run 12-14 hours at a steady temp, and then I will open the bottom vents as the temp starts to drop. Have not tried my new automatic temp controller on pork butts yet, just on ribs, but the last two 10 pound pork butts were done in sixteen hours done this way. Also remember the pork butts will lose 30-40% of their precooked weight before they are done.

Foiling does not hurt the pork butts after cooking, it's recommended a minimum of 30 minutes after cooking, longer shouldn't hurt. Also foiling the butts once the internal temp reaches 160F. until done at 190-200F. is supposed to make the pork even more moist, only drawback is that it will soften the bark.

22.5 WSM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brian Curtis:
What size WSM are you using? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brian Curtis:
When the coals on top, when the temp stabilizez I close all bottom vents except one, top stays open, that is only 30% open, yours might be different.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I mean each vent. as in how to judge what one vent open 15% looks like.
 

 

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