Thanks John, I apreciate the info. I am just trying to learn to cook on this baby, and I was drooling over some of the pics of cooks here and wanted to try to get some for my grill. Webber suport said the 22.5 grates would not fit my grill, but I was seeing them here. Weber has sure done right by me with two issues I had with my grill, unlike how some companies back their products for sure.