briskett temp confusion

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I am a little bit confused about when a brisket is finished. Is the proper temp 185, or 205? For the overnight cook, the brisket was taken off at 185. The wet rub, and the oven finished brisket were both finished at 205. Why the higher temps for the oven finish? Is it just personal preference?
 
Depending on the brisket it will be somewhere in the 185 to 205? range, internal temps are guides not the final test. Once the brisket reaches 185?
starting checking for tender in the flat. If you use a Polder style probe it should be tender to the touch as you insert it.
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RadRob....

I have cooked many briskets over the years and I am here to attest to the fact that the temps of a brisket mean very little. Also, the weight to time ratio can be very misleading!

This weekend at the Michigan BBQ contest, I cooked a 7 pound flat for over 12 hours, the last 3 in foil. The temp got to 185? in just under 9 hours, but I could just feel that it wasn't near tender enough. So, into the foil it went.

Cooked another 3 hours and it STILL wasn't done! I didn't bother taking a temp as I had to turn it in. The worst brisket score I ever had!

The thickness of the meat is so much more important than the weight. I can usually cook a flat and base my time on 1 hr./lb. This one I planned on 1 1/2 hrs./lb. because it was thicker than my normal flats. I also allowed 2 hours of leeway. Still not enough.

So, just beware that temp is only a small part of the equation. You need to be testing that thing with a probe. That probe needs to go in like butter.

Hope this helps!
 
I concur with both Jim and Stogie. While I do check temp as a guideline, I also use a guideline that says that 2 hours per pound is not unreasonable and plan accordingly. Ultimately, the polder probe in the flat is the best measure. For competition, you need to be cautious as you do not want a hole poked through all your turn-in slices, so don't go too deep.

Stogie--I have been there with the brisket that wouldn't. I had one a few weeks back that, after 16 hours for a 7 lb brisket, all I had was dry and tough--never did get tender. Yet, on another cookoff, it was done in 11 hours and I would not have known unless I had felt it while picking it up to rotate at that point.

How did you do in Michigan? We had to back out--my wife was accepted at the Mayo clinic and the only times available was either last week or late August.

Unfortunately, they were unable to do anything for her condition (blood clot in her leg), so we are still at square one--very frustrating for both of us.

I just sent an email this morning to organizer for Indiana cookoff to see if they still have openings. I introduced my nephew to cookoffs in Shannon and he has the "bug". He bought a cooker this past week, and is chomping at the bit to go to more cookoffs.

Maybe we'll see you there. Are you entering the backyard cookoff or just the Indiana State?

Dale
 
Hi Dale!

I spent ALL day Friday looking for you...saw your name on the sheet!! LOL Just kidding....sorry you missed the show.

It was by far our worst outing ever! The brisket didn't get done, the butt wasn't quite done...all this with 2-3 hours of leeway, foiling and jacking up the pit temp! Oh well.

Finally got a handle on chicken(Tim cooked them)...finished 12th, but no idea what went wrong with my ribs. I cooked them exactly the same as always, they tasted the same as my 4th place ribs in Illinois and they were much better than our neighbor who finished well above us. Go figure!

Anyway, yes, Indiana will have plenty of space available. We will cook in the regular State Championship. I am hoping that the "southern" locale will better understand our Q!! LOL

Sorry to hear about your wife. I have much experience with the Mayo clinic as pretty much my entire family has been there at some point(all except me). They are a great group of people and know what they are doing. Best of luck in the future!

See you in Indiana!
 
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