Baratza Encore............Question


 

LMichaels

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I think some of the folks on here own one of these. (Baratza Encore) (though the question does not refer to the newer ESP model, only the standard Encore). So, today I used the one I acquired that is attached to that scale system. I used it for a 65gram batch. For reference I have the Virtuoso Plus also in the kitchen. This is the first use for the Encore.
Question to you owners of Encore is do you find it VERY sslloooooowwwww to grind? It took forever IIRC about 2+ min to do what the Virtuoso does in about 50 seconds.
I just got done putting it back together yesterday afternoon, (likely will be used as a resale machine) but I don't want to resell it if it's not a properly working unit.
 
My Encore takes between 1:45 and 2:00 to grind a batch up to the fill line on the grounds cup.
Do you know how many grams you're grinding? I'm trying to decide on how far I want to take the refurb on the Encore with Esatto attachment I acquired. I've noticed the Encore and the Virtuoso Plus I have are very similar. Same motor, same construction internally. Only difference I've noticed is the driver PCB for the motor seems different. And the burr set is different. Virtuoso + has M2 burrs and Encore has M3.
Makes me wonder if the burr set makes that huge a difference in grind speed.
All part of deciding how I am going to outfit and market the ones I have refurbed so far.
Once I get the disassembly tool from Baratza I'll get into the Vario W and go completely through that one.
Another cool thing I found out. After ordering a bunch of parts from Baratza I noticed the receipts show as Breville. So apparently Breville owns Baratza
 
Do you know how many grams you're grinding?

No idea. Don't use a scale. Eyeballing the amount of coffee is good enough for me.

Both of my Encore's take just under two minutes at setting #24 to get up to the fill line. Which makes one big french press pot of coffee (1.5 liters). Since both work at that speed, presumably that is normal operation.

It is faster, of course, when I grind for a smaller pot.
 
I am waiting for you to get into a Baratza Sette 270/270WI so I can learn more about how mine really works
I'm working on it. I'd like to get the parts I need to market the other 2, before I try out a Sette. And If I do try one I'm going to try and grab a Sette 270 Wi because whatever it is I will be using it so, I am really spoiled having this weight based unit. So handy

Dan, yes that is about what I see with my Virtuoso Plus as well. And it's way faster than the Encore. But, for the life of my I can't understand why. Inside they're the same except for the burrs (Encore having the M3 and Virtuoso having the M2)
 
Do you know how many grams you're grinding?

No idea. Don't use a scale. Eyeballing the amount of coffee is good enough for me.

Both of my Encore's take just under two minutes at setting #24 to get up to the fill line. Which makes one big french press pot of coffee (1.5 liters). Since both work at that speed, presumably that is normal operation.

It is faster, of course, when I grind for a smaller pot.
Jim could you be kind enough to get some close up photos of the ring burr? I noticed the flutes are slightly "flattened" on mine though on others they appear like that in photos (I think). So would live to see how yours looks.
 

 

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