Alternative Rib Rubs? Mediterranean Perhaps?


 

James Harvey

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Hi All,

I'm looking for some alternative rib rub recipes and associated sauces. I generally use traditional paprika / brown sugar rubs with tomato based sauces but I'd like to try something different.

Mediterranean perhaps?

Thanks,

James
 
Personally, I'd ditch the paprika and create 'traditional' rubs with better flavor - chilies with actual flavor that stands up to cooking; paprika doesn't. It's okay for adding bulk though. Nor does dry mustard do a thing in rubs, yet one sees this included quite often.

Anyway, that wasn't your question.

I make many rubs that have different profiles from the traditional. Some combinations to consider:

- An herbes de Provence blend (h de P is, at least, rosemary, fennel, thyme, savory, tarragon, lavender, marjoram, basil), with ground white pepper. nice with a lemon thyme sauce or a sauce with a berry base.

- A quatre-épices blend (nice, especially on chuck or beef ribs but works elsewhere as well). Quatre-épices: Combine 1 T freshly ground white pepper with 2 t ground clove, 1 1/2 t ground nutmeg, and 1 1/2 t ground ginger. White pepper is preferable--use black if need be but white really adds to this.

- Thyme, oregano, garlic, onion, white pepper, Aleppo, and coriander.

- Onion, garlic, Aleppo, thyme, sumac, sugar optional.

-Ground hot chilies, onion, garlic, thyme, marjoram, sage, sugar, Ceylon cinnamon, amchur, sumac, allspice, ginger, coriander, crushed black and white pepper.

What do you have in your herb and spice arsenal?
 
Thanks Kevin. I'm woefully basic / traditional in my arsenal of herbs and spices and don't even recognize some of what you have listed. Can you explain the below and maybe give me an indication of where these are sold?

Also, in your last 3 recipes, what amounts of each ingredient should I be using?


Aleppo
Amchur
Sumac


James
 
Aleppo pepper looks a bit similar to crushed red pepper, except that it is without seeds and is moister. It has a little heat and a wonderful slightly sour fruity chile flavor. It is named after the town in Syria where it originates. It is also grown in Turkey. I go through a lot of it, using it on and in egg dishes, to top homemade pizzas, and in numerous rubs (I am partial to the flavors of the Levant and Middle East).

Amchur (also spelled amchoor) is the dried, powdered version of unripe mango. It is also sour and quite fruity. It is found in some regional Indian cuisines.

Sumac is another fruity, sour flavor. It is used in and on many dishes in the cuisines of Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and Persia. It is a common tabletop condiment alone, or mixed with thyme and sesame seeds for the vary popular condiment known as zatar (which is sprinkled over cooked rice, on meats just off the grill, on lightly oiled and grilled flatbread, etc).


I quite like fruit flavors with grilled, roasted and/or smoked meats. The above three combine well with various herbs and spices, alone or mixed with each other, and offer good counterpoint to sweeteners, whether used in the rub or in the accompanying sauce.

Penzey's carries Aleppo and sumac. There might be Canadian sources that would be cheaper, shipping-wise. Seek amchur in Indian markets.

Proportions can be varied, depending on use but as examples:

2 T thyme; .5 T Mediterranean oregano; 1 T granulated garlic; 1.5 T granulated onion; 2 t ground white pepper; 1 T Aleppo; 2 t ground corinader

for the second, 1 T of each

4 T ground NM hot chile, guajillo, cascabel, or a blend; 3 T granulated onion; 1 T granulated garlic; 1 T thyme; 1 t marjoram; 2 t rubbed sage, 2 t sugar; .5 t Ceylon cinnamon; 2 t each amchur and sumac; .5 t each allspice, ginger and coriander; .75 t each crushed black and white pepper

When and if you hit an Indian store (or a Mediterranean one) grab some pomegranate molasses. It is excellent as a flavor agent in many sauces that work well with the above, and is also a good addition to more typical Q sauces.
 
Excellent! We have many Middle Eastern style stores and markets in my area. Thanks again Kevin. I look forward to trying a few of these out.

James
 
I like it when we get Kevin talking about flavor notes! I know I always learn something anyway. It's one of the reasons I always have Aleppo on hand and why I've pretty much got religion about toasting and grinding my own dried chillies. For an additional ingredient for sweet/sour flavor that's very nice and could work well in some of his examples, don't forget tamarind (even though that might not be considered authentic Mediterranean). You'll find that in the same Indian grocery though when you are looking for that Pomegranate molasses
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