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When I welded up my frames, I used heavier gauge stock. It allowed me to tap and thread the frame to attach items like the propane tank hanger without having to through bolt or use self tapping screws. However, anything that has to slip into the ends if the frame tubes might have to be trimmed...

This might help: https://tvwbb.com/threads/restoration-projects-1992-genesis-1-and-late-80s-genesis-2.76238/ Scroll through the pics on page 2 and the last page to see how it looks after 4 years. Gerry

I would (and did) retain the natural SS finish. Well, I polished it a little, but didn't paint it. I'll never have to fix paint chips. I was thinking making the shelves wider side to side. I think it simplifies construction. You just need two longer frame tubes. As far as how wide? How much...

If I was starting from scratch, I would remake the frame out of stainless steel. That way it lasts forever. Mild steel with a porcelain coating may rust from the inside out. Aluminum would be interesting, but it does oxidize over time. Then I would modify it to fit the space it will live in...

Crap! That’s where I left it! I’ve been looking all over for it:geek: Gerry

We Troglodytes just go with this:

Nice! You wouldn’t be moving to Lake Villa, Illinois?

Looks like that promotion is over. Gerry

Thanks for giving me the “push” to get it. It’s in mint condition. Tell me about the fire glass you put in yours. I might go that route too instead of the lava rocks. Gerry

The ad for the one in Michigan is down too. Because I decided to go get it! Gerry

I'm thinking about it... Well, I replied to his ad. waiting for a reply.

I think if I got one, I might build some kind of riser to get it 12-18" off the deck. That way you don't cook your feet before the rest of you gets warm. Gerry

I wish this was closer to me: https://holland.craigslist.org/for/d/holland-weber-flame-outdoor-fireplace/7695402327.html Gerry

Looks nice Larry. Hey Bruce?!:) Gerry

Did they ever make those in a natural gas version? Just Googled it. Yes, they did.

"gives you the feel and precision of a chainsaw" Just what is needed! Gerry

What is the "huge tank of a system"? I might be interested if it's something nice. It might be better than what you can buy now. I have three old Acurus amps driving three pairs of speakers in the garage. They handle the woofers with an iron fist. Nice clear sounds at reasonable listening...

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Dump the kids out of the car to make room for the Weber! They can walk a block to get home! 🤓 Gerry

Here’s a kettle in an antique shop.

We used to have one of those tin grills back in the early '70s. Back then, we had a travel trailer parked in northern Illinois at a trailer park (Timber Lake Park) and we would spend weekends up there. That is where Dad learned about the Weber kettles, because everyone had them, and the tin...