weber to knock off WSM mod


 
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kris lewis

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I am stealing this from John henderson on the forum, and wanted to get some insight on this. Not sure if it will work yet but for 6.00 in nuts and bolts that I can reuse for updating this procedure I do not see why not attempt it.

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I am setting this contraption on top of the charcoal grate. I plan to build a ring out of 1/4" expanded metal and center it in the grill. The grates I am using that are not weber kettle are from my red electric brinkmann(I knew I would use this again
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). Then I threw an old cake pan on top(I will be looking for a round one that is fairly large). All of this fits under the regular height of the weber grill grate.

Only thing I am not sure about is if there is adequate room for the charcoal, or how long the charcoal load would last. Nice part is I can always just pull everything straight up and do a quick reload if I was doing a really long smoke. The main point of this was to allow full grate usage and hopefully a more even cook vs the charcoal bricks that I have been unsuccessful to locate.

Thoughts, opinions, etc...??
kris
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by george curtis:
i'm confused. what are you trying to get done ? what do you hope to accomplish ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I was asking myself that same question George. I think he's setting up his kettle "Bullet" style for slow smoking. But it wouldn't be the first time I missed the mark. Probably not the last either.
 
Looks like a baby WSM out of a kettle.

The coals will be too close to the meat. It will be difficult to get an in-direct cook/smoke.

Here is something similar - link

He did get his cooking grate farther away from the charcoal.
 
I guess it wasn't self explanatory. I was attempting to find a way to use the kettle to smoke without listing a good portion of the grate, as with bricks.

Thanks for the link russell. That might be the answer I needed.
kris
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Russell Y:
Looks like a baby WSM out of a kettle.

The coals will be too close to the meat. It will be difficult to get an in-direct cook/smoke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The water pan will shield the meat from direct heat.

When you don't have the height of the WSM to work with, there's going to be a compromise somewhere. Compared the WSM, this mod doesn't have as much space for charcoal between the charcoal grate and water pan, but I've gotten seven hour or so burns easily with this set-up without really trying to pile in the charcoal.
 
looks like a lot of trouble to do a basic indirect cook. you accomplish the same thing by putting coals on two sides. that being sayed, by all means go ahead and try what you want to. for all i know i might be be waaaay off. please let us know how things turn out.
 
After owning a traeger and two UDS, I just have this urge to play, modify, change. This would have worked great(would have), if I followed John's a little closer by raising everything up. I tried it today and there was minimal room(maybe a layer and a half of charcoal). No biggie, back to the drawing boards. I should be careful, because last time i said that i broke out autocad and made myself a stumps smoker clone.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by george curtis:
looks like a lot of trouble to do a basic indirect cook. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you want to smoke low and slow, there's more to it than just indirect heat. You need to control the temps, and the One Touch, with all of the air leakage around the vanes, needs all the help it can get. My first tries were with a water pan on the charcoal grate with the charcoal next to it. I concluded that the water did almost nothing when the heat rose up from the charcoal and never encountered the water pan as in a WSM. That's when I started to experiment with the water pan over the charcoal. In addition, this mod leaves a lot more room for charcoal. Also, the charcoal-on-the-side was not entirely indirect anyway. The edges of the meat still saw a direct path to the charcoal. If you use a big enough pan (I use an 11x17 in. pan), this mod results in a more indirect configuration.
 
against what everyone on this forum will probably say, I opted to give a smokenator a shot. Is it pricey, a little more than a few bricks. Did it cost me anything, nope. I do online surveys and get amazon gift cards for doing them. Free to me. I am now saving up for the weber ring and rotisserie.
 
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