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I've always wanted to try that premium ground beef too. I'll be interested to see what you think of it.

I knew what it meant. It just struck me as funny. There are always 2 sides to every argument. That was never in question.

"I will leave you to your own sensibilities"? LOL. I'm really not sure what the risk of cancer from grilled meat/food has to do with possible health risks with aluminum? We all love grilling and are unlikely to give it up entirely. And people have been grilling since the days of the cave man...

Yes I agree at this point most evidence out there says aluminum is not a factor in alzheimers. But there are some physicians that don't go along with that. I know a neurosurgeon that used to be at my facility that wont have anything to do with aluminum cookware or anything cooked in aluminum...

My .02 on the grill grates is "no thanks". I'm in healthcare and while the evidence regarding aluminium and Alzheimer's is definitely mixed my feeling is why take the chance at all? Especially when there are other choices proven harmless that perform very well. Alzheimer's is such a horrible...

Those look great. We have chops generally at least once a week. They are a real bargain compared to beef.

Yeah I tried turning them over. Then I just eventually had gunk on both sides.

I appreciate the further explanation. But it's still a personal subjective experience and not fact. My experience was different. It wasn't sure by side but still 2 different grills owned within a few months of each other with a vastly different experience than yours. In my case after several...

Exactly. And it should be stated as such. And it usually is.

Sorry but that's your subjective opinion only regarding the "messiness" of the briquettes vs flavorizors. Not fact. My experience was different.

Jon those tiles do look to be an improvement over the old lava rocks. The grills I used that had lava rocks those lava rocks got all gunked up once or twice a year. I remember laboriously scraping them off individually. Just turning them over wouldn't have worked. They were too gunked up. It...

It looks like there WAS a broilmaster forum at one time but it is now defunct. https://www.google.com/url?q=http://broilmaster-forums.weebly.com/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi54NTftZ3rAhVCF6wKHSjkAwQQFjACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0hhoB2qGQbKdF4FQCNB0Az I would own a broilmaster if it weren't for the lava rocks...

Bruce that is beautiful. That's a grill i would love to own. Except the level of the burner controls makes my back hurt just looking at it. But then I'm 6'4" LOL .

Maybe the answer is that not even quality stainless lasts for very long on the coasts? I thought the stainless on the new Genesis II s was good quality 300 series? But I don't know that for a fact. I just know it's not magnetic (hood and side tables). I'm glad I don't live coastal (even though...

That makes sense. But then that would also be the case for the older genesis 1000 and silver grills wouldn't it? Those grills don't fare well in a salt air environment either particularly the painted steel frame. The only grills that truly last in coastal areas are the ones that are all...

Same. I had a small chest freezer and an old Kenmore refrigerator that lasted 20 years in my unheated garage. Both were still working when I got rid of them. The only reason I got rid of them is what they were costing in electricity $$ due to their age and inefficiency. Replaced the Kenmore with...

Chris I'll politely disagree. Sometimes there are spirited discussions here but in my opinion they are never mean spirited including the one in question. But it is your forum Chris so I'll do my best to comply.

I think you would like the genesis II. I prefer my older vintage genesis 1000 but the genesis II grills are nice and seem pretty well built. At least in my first hand experience with friends and families grills. Weber really needs a complete redesign of the summit line. The flagship line should...

Really? I know a couple of people that bought genesis II grills in 2017 and those grills are holding up great.

It might be cool to have an illustration of a classic weber gasser and a new genesis II side by side.