Pastrami Again, and Sandwiches!


 

RCBaughn

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Well here is my fourth pastrami I've done on my mini WSM. The first pastrami I did was a flat I corned myself and that was a lot of work and didn't turn out all that great, so these last three have been the pre-corned points from Walmart and I really like them a whole lot. I always go with a point for the extra fat, I think beef fat is the bomb and if you're gonna eat pastrami may as well go all out and not skimp on the caloric intake. I only soaked it for about two hours before rubbing and smoking but it wasn't overly salty, but it sure didn't need any salt in the rub I'll say that. I like them a bit saltier I guess. Don't have to add any to the rub or the sandwiches you make.

I smeared it with mustard to get the rub to stick better and make a really good bark. That first pastrami I did the rub didn't stick too well so I tried it with a real light mustard coating and found it didn't change the flavor at all. I rubbed it down with a mixture of a little onion powder, garlic powder, fresh and coarsely crushed coriander, a touch of ground coriander, and a heaping ton of coarsely cracked black peppercorns. I didn't really measure anything and just eye balled it. I've started doing this on most of the stuff I cook besides my breads and I have been getting some good results. Free-styling is a lot more fun that having to keep looking at the phone for the recipe. It's not in the picture, but I also decided to throw in probably a tablespoon of brown sugar just to make sure I'd get a whole lot of bark caramelization. Probably not traditional for pastrami but once again it kinda turned out like the mustard and didn't provide extra flavor, but I think it did help with keeping a good firm bark even after foiling.

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Put it on the mini though and smoked it at 225 for about 5 hours till it hit 160 then foiled it and let her go till she hit 195 then I did the poke test and it probed a bit tough so I let it go a bit longer, not sure how long but it hit 203 before it "butter" probed. Pulled it off the smoker, left it wrapped in the foil on the counter till the next morning and then slid it in the fridge to get cold so it would slice really easy and well.

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Sliced it thin the next day, bought some Cobblestone Mill rye bread and swiss cheese, nuked the pastrami in the microwave to knock the cold off and get it warm so it would pre-melt the cheese a bit, put on a lot of barrel-made sauerkraut, and gave it a smear of grainy dijon mustard and some horseradish spread I had and gave it a good browning in a HEAVILY buttered pan till the cheese was melty. Mom had one and I had one with french fries, and I ended up having to finished hers. They were awesome. The pastrami was juicy and smokey, but I guess you can tell that from my greasy slick fingers! This is probably the closest I'll ever get to the real thing from New York and Katz.

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I think I'm getting the hang of brisket. It isn't about temp really, it's all about the probe. I'll just use the temp as a guide for the probing. May try not foiling down the road and see if I can nail that technique, although I figure it's a WHOLE lot harder to get tender and juicy like that.
 
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Man-o-man! That looks delicious! Great description and excellent photos !

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I'm doin a few tomorrow also. What did you use for smokewood?, I'm still undecided and would appreciate You're input..

TIM
 
Well guys, all I had was Alderwood. I told mom to pick up Applewood at Home Depot when she went into town earlier that day and God bless her, she just grabbed the first wood that started with an "A". Ha, I thought that it would be too light on the smoke flavor, so I ended up digging out some Jack Daniel's barrel chips I bought at Walmart and had left there forever ago, so I used a small handful of those at the beginning of the smoke. I've found that these chips burn a good bit hotter and faster and put out a lot of smoke so that's why I did it at the get go so I knew I would watch the temp more carefully than 5 or 6 hours into a smoke.

Alderwood was good though, I don't know how much the small amount of chips did, but the light smoke that burned the whole time before it was foiled was perfect. Not too overpowering but you definitely knew it didn't come out of an oven.
 
Funny I just commented on your thread about Pastrami! Are you doing the faux pastrami recipe without brining? I just put one in brine this afternoon and figure it will be ready for smoke in 3 weeks.
 
Funny I just commented on your thread about Pastrami! Are you doing the faux pastrami recipe without brining? I just put one in brine this afternoon and figure it will be ready for smoke in 3 weeks.

Hey Scott, no this one was corned, but it was already done so by the company that packed it. They sell em at Walmart and they are dang reasonable in my area. I just don't like having a big honking piece of meat in the fridge for that long since I live with a girl that is weird about meat and it being so close to her stuff in the fridge. I can respect that I guess though, although it would be nice to have my own fridge here for stuff like that, but honestly it is just too nice to just un-bag one of the pre-corned ones, soak it for a few hours or overnight then throw it on the smoker. No worrying about under-curing, over-curing, or mixing up the salt petre too weak or strong in the brine. I don't think that everyone here likes using these kind of briskets, but I've always had great success when I've bought the point cut ones. I'd go as far as to say I've had better results, but that may be down to me not being that great at curing and smoking my own meat yet.

And thanks Gary! I get so much inspiration from everyone here that it's nice I could do the same for someone else and give back a little bit! Bet it'll turn out great, don't forget to post some pictures!
 
RC, nice job man! Curing is not at all difficult once you learn how. There are a few safety related issues obviously but once you learn what not to do you can have fun with it. I would suggest picking up a used mini fridge for this and other related projects to keep the female unit happy.
 
I saw those at my Walmart when I was buying my whole brisket. I wondered if they were any good. Now I have my answer. Good job.
 
To make the pastrami sandwich the old fashioned deli way you should steam the pastrami, not nuke it! See forum at www.amazingribs.com on pastrami almost as good as Katz's Deli.

Me and that website don't exactly agree on very much really but I appreciate the link! I may try his pastrami method out, but considering that the microwave did such a good job and took 30 seconds versus a good while I may have to stick with that given my work and school schedule right now.
 

 

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