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Thread: New Weber grill....question about sear station and quality

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    I agree with Rich and Larry.
    I have a 2008 E310 (E/W burners) and a 2012 E310 (N/S burners) waiting for me to start rehabbing them. I have been putting it off as I am sure I am going to find rust and other problems inside the cabinet. Also, the grills are much more complex and going to be a lot more work overall than the older Silver B's and 1000's. The previous owners didn't seem to take real good care of them either which doesn't help.
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    Here's my opinion on current weber quality. I think the older models were simpler and somewhat better in quality. And I love my two older webers. BUT I know a number of people who have bought webers within the last few years and are VERY pleased with them. Every single one of those people think their weber is a big step up from their prior char broil, kenmore, or members mark. Does the extra quality justify the price? That's something that's an individual decision.

    I agree that one of the main problem points with the newer webers is the enclosed cart. Weber was really wise in my opinion to go back to the open design.

    BUT just because a product is made in China doesn't automatically denote poor or lesser quality. My experience from seeing and actually using the newer webers is that they are still very high quality albeit expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg M View Post
    I know a number of people who have bought webers within the last few years and are VERY pleased with them. Every single one of those people think their weber is a big step up from their prior char broil, kenmore, or members mark. Does the extra quality justify the price? That's something that's an individual decision.
    My advice for someone that wants the Weber quality but doesn't want the $800 price tag is to buy an older one and fix it up or buy one that someone else already fixed up. For $150 and a little work, you can have one of those nice Silver B's or 1000-5000 Genesis grills with the open design. It is hard to even find a cheapo Charbroil, Kenmore, DynaGlo, etc... for $150 and you would have three times the grill.
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    I actually like the open cart design. Less to fail but I could see where some people would want enclosed to protect things from the elements. I'll be using mine under a covered porch so I actually like the open design better than the Napoleon closed in bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    My advice for someone that wants the Weber quality but doesn't want the $800 price tag is to buy an older one and fix it up or buy one that someone else already fixed up. For $150 and a little work, you can have one of those nice Silver B's or 1000-5000 Genesis grills with the open design. It is hard to even find a cheapo Charbroil, Kenmore, DynaGlo, etc... for $150 and you would have three times the grill.
    I agree rehabbing an old weber gives the best bang for the buck. But
    some people just aren't interested in a used grill or the work involved in restoring one.

    My brother is one of those people. His three year old members mark just rusted through the firebox a few weeks ago. I'm trying to talk him into a weber restoration but the idea of a used grill doesn't appeal to him.

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    Lance, if you're still looking for a new Genesis check out this thread...

    https://slickdeals.net/f/10409604-gr...archBarV2Algo1

    That's how I got my Genesis II E-310 for $169 plus tax. YMMV of course but I was able to get 2 of em and flip one. Just read up on that forum because there is a method to get it at that price. Yah, the new Gennys are made in China now but I think they're better than a Char-Broil, Kenmore or Dyna-glo IMHO and for $169 you can't beat that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
    Lance, if you're still looking for a new Genesis check out this thread...

    https://slickdeals.net/f/10409604-gr...archBarV2Algo1

    That's how I got my Genesis II E-310 for $169 plus tax. YMMV of course but I was able to get 2 of em and flip one. Just read up on that forum because there is a method to get it at that price. Yah, the new Gennys are made in China now but I think they're better than a Char-Broil, Kenmore or Dyna-glo IMHO and for $169 you can't beat that.
    Thanks, according to brickseek there are none available anywhere near me. I could definitely live with one of those for that price though....darn

    I did notice that Walmart is cheaper at $699 on it. If that price of $749 at the other place was correct.
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    Sadly even at that $169 price there most likely was still a huge profit............Thanks to Chinese production. The new stuff is over priced period by a HUGE margin. Also with re to say a Member's Mark product there are different products they sell under that moniker. If you research their upper end product, you'll find about the same overall build and better material quality overall than Weber and a lifetime warranty to boot all for under $500! I'm sorry, $500 for lifetime warranty and pretty much equal build? Compared to $1000 (maybe more) and 10 year (maybe) warranty? Do the math. But yeah if I could snare a new Weber II series for under $200 I'd be jumping all over that like white on rice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMichaels View Post
    Sadly even at that $169 price there most likely was still a huge profit............Thanks to Chinese production. The new stuff is over priced period by a HUGE margin. Also with re to say a Member's Mark product there are different products they sell under that moniker. If you research their upper end product, you'll find about the same overall build and better material quality overall than Weber and a lifetime warranty to boot all for under $500! I'm sorry, $500 for lifetime warranty and pretty much equal build? Compared to $1000 (maybe more) and 10 year (maybe) warranty? Do the math. But yeah if I could snare a new Weber II series for under $200 I'd be jumping all over that like white on rice!
    Where do they sell these higher end members mark grills? And do they have a cast aluminium firebox? I've looked at the ones in several Sam's stores in my home state (MO). And all I see are cheap *** grills about on par with a char broil or kenmore. Cheap burners, cheap firebox, etc.

    To me the cast aluminium firebox is critical. That's where my kenmore failed and also two newer members mark that I know of. Sheet metal just isn't a durable material for that application (firebox).

    If Sam's does sell a better premium grill it must not be available nationwide?

    I'm not knocking Sam's or sears. They both well a lot of quality products at good prices. But not grills. At least not in my experience nor the experience of my family and friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceJ View Post
    Thanks, according to brickseek there are none available anywhere near me. I could definitely live with one of those for that price though....darn

    I did notice that Walmart is cheaper at $699 on it. If that price of $749 at the other place was correct.
    As long as there is a Walmart that has it for $169 near you then that's good. What you have to do is order it online (have it shipped to the store that has it for $169 per brickseek) for full price, pick it up when it comes in and then do a return/rebuy at the CS desk after you've picked it up. Just tell them you want to use a different credit card when they ask for a reason. When they credit you back you'll get the $699 back on the original credit card you used and when they scan it in store for the rebuy it should ring up at the clearance price of $169. That's how a lot of the folks have done it.

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