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    New Member Dan McCloskey's Avatar
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    I think I stole her.....

    As promised here is the newest little lady in my life.
    I believe her to be a 2004 Genesis Silver A set up for Natural Gas
    [IMG]Genesis Silver A 2 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Genesis Silver A 1 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Genesis Silver A 3 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Genesis Silver A 5 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Genesis Silver A 4 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]

    I say stole her because she was only $20.00 from a college student at Penn State University main campus.
    She does have a few issues such as
    • Only 2 flavorizer bars
    • Original style grate
    • Set up for natural gas

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    New Member Dan McCloskey's Avatar
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    Here are a few pic's of the orifice, and hose connector that lead me to believe this is set up for natural gas. Your imput is appreciated.
    [IMG]Gas Hose by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]Orifice1 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    [IMG]orifice2 by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]

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    It's definitely a natural gas model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    It's definitely a natural gas model.
    Thank you. I can order parts now.

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    Is it the plan to convert to LP? By the time you buy a new LP manifold/flavorizer bars/better grates, it may no longer be quite the bargain.

    Don't get me wrong...my Silver A was around that price point when I bought it, it ended up getting new FBs/igniter/drip pan/burners/stainless warming rack. It is a very nice grill, but I could have refurbed a 3-burner for less.
    Last edited by JKim in MA; 07-07-2017 at 12:37 PM.
    2002 Genesis Silver B, 2004 Genesis Gold B, 1996 Genesis 1000
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    Thank you for sharing your refirb experience, that's why sites like this are so valuable.
    My plan is to convert & restore it.
    An LP regulator and 2 ofifices (drilled) are $40.00 shipped. As for the flavorizer bars and grate I am having a friend fabricate them from 300 series stainless. Raw materials are surprisingly inexpensive.
    I agree that if it were any more than that then yes it would not be worth it. It's in fantastic shape, with very minimal rust (only on some of the bolts).

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    Be aware that converting it is NOT just 2 orifices as the valves are different too on LP vs NG models. So you will need a manifold. Though they can be had relatively easily however for that model may be a little more scarce. Whoever told you all you needed was just 2 orifices lied or did not know the first thing about Weber gas grills

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    LMichaels I have scoured the web looking for control valves for the Genesis Silver A, and have only been able to find 1 type (there are 2 options a bolt through, and a screw in- mine is a bolt through)
    [IMG]weber-bolt-through-valve by Dan McCloskey, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Can you give me any information on the valve used with NG? What are the differences in the LP and NG valve?
    Any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Look for some of my other posts for more details but basically this. Weber uses 2 different types of valves (this goes for NG as well as LP version). One type has a continuously variable control. IOW there is not a preset for low/med/high. The other type uses a 3 orifice control. with low/med/high ports. You cannot tell one from the other without disassembling the valve.
    If you are lucky enough to have continuously variable type you're golden. No problems to simply change the orifice and you're done. If you have the fixed setting type the following will happen. If you have an LP grill and try to rejet it for NG you will need to install such a huge orifice to keep it working on low/med settings the grill will be dangerous at high setting. Or you can remove the internal valve cone and measure/then resize just the low/medium ports. I don't have sizes to actually give you. but basically opening them a couple thousandths seems to work well. IF you have NG valves and try to convert to LP the low and med settings will still basically burn nearly as hot as high setting. You'll have very little control. This is why when Weber sold a conversion "kit" it was ALWAYS a full manifold assembly.

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    Try inserting an trade inquiry on the buy, sell or trade forum. I found a guy in NY that had a NG and we traded valves and hoses and regulators.

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