If you submerge your ziplock into a pot of water as you are closing it, it will give you a light vacuum seal. slowly work the bag until all the air is out and zip it up.. Works unbelievably well.. If you need me to make a video and show you how I do it, I can do that for you.
hope this helps you out
Yeah I think so. However you can combine the 2 and get an even more through method. Rolling is a little aggressive on soft meat. The water is way more gentle but it does push out most the air. Like I said I can video it for you or you can try with damn near anything. I work as a professional chef and it is one of those VETERAN moves I have picked up over the last 20 years. Use what ever works for you but I use this method for everything. Especially if I am freezing things
I've done that before, Bill (straw method). I just worry about sucking raw meat juices (in the case of uncooked items).
I am the original poster . can you upload on YouTube for everyone's benefit ?