Just got my scores back from my first comp and several teams got 0.00 across the board on the overall results.

Those 0's don't reflect 0.00's given in individual meats. If a team is DQ'ed for late turn in or a foreign object in the box is that how their score would show up?

Or, is there another reason for a team to get that score?

Thanks for your input.
Dave

The zeroes indicate a team either didn't turn anything in for that category or didn't make it to the turn-in table in time.

A DQ'ed entry will always have a score greater than zero.

Ken

Here I'm looking at teams that scored in certain meats, but on their "overall scores" they got 0's.

So even if turned in late, they get scores from the judges, but they don't count?

Is this KCBS?

Sorry, yeah it's KCBS

Now I'm going to have to pull out the rules and judging handbook. I thought the worst you could get was a DQ, which is ones in all categories.

Interesting.

The only way to get zeroes for a category would be to have the team's name in the contest's database for that category but not have anything turned in (late to the turn-in table, entry went south and the team deemed it not worth turning in, entering a category then choosing not to cook anything for it, etc.).

An entry that is given the death sentence and DQed outright would receive an overall score of 4 for that category. (A 1 in each criteria across the board. With the weighting of the criteria factored in, an outright DQ calculates to a .8 from each of five judges with the sixth score (which is also a .8) always thrown out by the software).

There is no way of entering a score for a category into the computer without also simultaneously rolling it into a team's overall score. The scoring software doesn't allow it.

Unless something went terribly wrong with the software (which is not completely impossible but also extremely unlikely), here is an explanation that is much less sinister and is probably what happened.

Once the cards were collected (with that team's scores) for that category, a rep input them into the software. When all those scores were entered, a couple of printouts of that category's results were printed off.

One print is used to wrap the score cards and is sent to the office in KC with the rest of the contest's paperwork and the other print is used for making the copies that are handed out to all teams after the contest.

Between the time the category's results were originally printed and the printing of the overall scores after all the other categories had been entered, the rep manually zeroed out that team's scores for that category through the software's regular interface. The rep likely overlooked creating a new printout of that category's revised results.

Once the "master" copies of the individual categories and the overall result sheets were printed, copies of each were made en masse and collated at the same time for distribution.

In this instance, that category's old results sheet was probably used for those copies while the overall sheet reflected the revised and correct final results.

Why a team's scores for a category would be zeroed out from the computer after the fact is beyond me but I assume the reps had a good reason for doing so and I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

This is just my educated guess but it covers all the logical bases.

Ken
KCBS Rep in Remission

Thanks, Ken. I wasn't a victim of it but was curious how it would happen.

I missed a brisket turn-in a few weeks ago and was given 1's by the judges. I ended up with the exciting score of 20 on it.